Saturday, May 31, 2008

OM Podcast: Baptists and Presbyterians Together, Part II

This month we return to April’s topic of the relationship between Reformed Baptists and Presbyterians. Joining us is Stefan Lindblad, currently serving alongside his father as pastor of Trinity Reformed Baptist Church (Kirkland, WA). We had a great discussion and trust you will enjoy thinking further about these things.

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8 comments:

Lee said...

My apologies for being off-topic, but I was wondering if y'all plan to interact with this set of papers on the podcast:

http://www.tnpc.org/ga2008/

pastorshaun said...

Lee,

I was at the colloquium and think it would be wise to respond. Let me see what we can do.

Shaun

Timothy M said...

Hi, I just recently finished listening to this newest podcast and had one question that I kept coming back to and that was what a True Church consisted of.

The Scots Confession and the Three Forms prescribe the true church needs to rightly administer the Sacraments(as well as preach the Word/Gospel and have church discipline). While Baptists may be brethren in Christ, how can they have a true Church if they do not administer Baptism to the children of the Believers?

Also, how can they even claim the word 'Reformed' if they do not adhere to what the men who formally and ecclesiastically set forth as 'Reformed' doctrine in confessions of faith? It is one thing to be a Confessional Baptist but another to say one is a 'Reformed Baptist.' They do not adhere to the confessions of the Reformers nor to their covenant theology nor to their sacramental and liturgical understanding of the Lord's Service. I say this as a former 'Reformed Baptist.'

Thanks, I was just curious about what you guys thought.

JohnTheMacGeek said...

It's August. Have you guys called it quits?

pastorshaun said...

No, we've had some scheduling difficulties. We just recorded yesterday and should have the new podcast up within the next few days.

Thanks for asking.

JohnTheMacGeek said...

That's great news, thanks!

Tim Webb said...

Hello,

I've listed to both podcasts on "Baptists & Presbyterians Together", and as a result, I was wondering: Are there really any differences between Baptists & Presbyterians? It sounds like Presbyterians are just Baptists who sprinkle water on babies.

I ask this because I have some very conservative and orthodox friends who are Anglicans (Anglican Mission of Rwanda) and Lutheran (LCMS), who often accuse me, a Presbyterian, of being a de facto Baptist. These podcasts would further prove their point.

Any chance that we'll get podcasts on "Lutherans & Presbyterians Together" and "Anglicans & Presbyterians Together" to discuss the areas of agreement & disagreement between the parties? I'd love it!

Thanks for your wonderful work on these podcasts, Tim.

T. Webb said...

One other question: the question of participation in the Lord's Supper came up, of whether a Baptist would allow a Presbyterian to commune, and I believe that the Baptist pastor (my apologies, I have forgotten his name and it doesn't appear on this comment page) said that he would allow Presbyterians to partake.

My question is, as Presbyterian (PCA) pastors, could you partake at a Baptist church? That is, could you partake of the supper in a Zwinglian context, when the Reformed & Presbyterian confessions condemn a mere memorial or symbolic view, and assert the presence of Christ by means of the Holy Spirit (a Spiritual presence)? Certainly you would not partake in a context where transubstantiation was asserted, for example.

This question vexes my soul, and I hope that you can provide some illumination.

Thanks, and thanks also to the Baptist pastor who joined you for a good conversation. In Christ, Tim.